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getpaid2livewell

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Ok you've got a nice lookin site and nice lookin players but I gotta say ease of use is not your forté. The players are really hard to start and stop, and the tool bar doesn't work at all.

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Cherry wrote:
Esnips is a good site. I've made many friends who are great people, the amount of free space is brilliant. But I am not happy with how I've been treated by the staff of Esnips.

I've tried to be friendly to Lonnie, taking an interest in her folders, written comments, even added her to my friends list etc.... but she hasn't done the same for me, instead has been friendly to many others on the site bar me and won't show any sort of interest in me unless I write to her and even then it feels more out of feeling obligated too rather than being friendly. I was one of the last to be informed about the karaoke beach party which made me feel even more discluded from the communtiy especially since I have been an active karaoke singer on this site since May 2006. I noticed that you can have a t-shirt sent to you if you write to Lonnie and give her your address, weeks have passed and I haven't been contacted about it in any way. I've applied to see the new social page that is on our profile page twice and have not been contacted. I realise the Esnips team are busy but I'm really started to feel left out and ignored by the team. I don't see this as a positive or professional way to dealing with people. Not sure if anyone else has felt like this? Well, after reading a few of the comments in this forum, it seems I am the only one who has felt this way, hmmm.... think that is making me feel worse.

That's my thoughts on Esnips.



 


Wow it's really rough to be treated like that. Makes me glad I decided not to get involved with anyone. I'm just uploading my stuff. I didn't even bother to fill out a profile. Seems like all the socializing is a waste of time around here if that's how you're gonna be treated. I'm well out of it
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@Holly Jahangiri

And in the game...you sure you never said, "How do I get to be a GM?" or "Hey, you should [fill in fantastic but technically implausible demand of the developers]"?


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Nope, never once. But what I mentioned was everyone, not just me. The game masters and staffs of that game puts their local players as top priority.



Well, there's no secret to that. Its only the person's will. Whether he chooses to accept the insults or turn them into compliments.

For example..

Boy1(Skinny Guy, roughly 45kg+): Hey fatass(refering to me). Whats the rush? You're so fat that its better if you skip breaktime.
Me(74kg, not overweight due to my height, 181): I suppose so*, wanna go join me for breaktime?
Boy1: *Looks a little irritated* Dude are you dumb or something? I said you should skip breaktime!
Me: Aww since you're too busy to come, too bad! Don't blame me if you're hungry *bursts out with laughter* But, if you change your mind you can find me in the canteen. *Walks away*
Boy1: *Begins to cuss at me as I turn my back on him*
Me: *As Boy1 starts to cuss at me, I turned back and said "Oh, see! You're hungry! Come join me and enjoy some noodles or rice, your choice!" and then I walked away again*

*From my thoughts process, I turned his mean sentence to "Hey friend. Heading to the canteen already? Take a little care of your health and eat less yeah?"

Thats the pattern.

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Holly Jahangiri wrote:
Um...reality check?

How many people would go to a club, sing karaoke (or read at open mic night), and expect personal attention from the manager? Might be nice, but it's not going to happen every time to everyone. They try to make it a fun place for you to play - to show off your work (you know, give friends your eSnips URL and say "Hey, look what I've done here!") - but it's a business for them. Lonnie works for the company. She's been very friendly and involved, in my experience. Having had a job much like hers, about (oh, I feel old now) 13 years ago, I can tell you there is NO WAY to have a personal relationship with every member of a site like this. There just aren't enough hours in the day.

I've also been a GM and game developer. And a moderator on several sites. If you jump up and down and say "Hey, look at me!" it's a sure bet...they won't. Just like in real life, people are more often drawn to people who don't seem to need or crave so much attention.

I love how Hamster Lover put it:

...because of my happy go lucky kind of attitude in my secondary school days, I was pretty much ignored thoroughly for four years during then. To bluntly put it, I'm so used to being ignored that once someone ignores me, it has completely no effect on me.

Ever consider that maybe you were lucky to be ignored during those years? There's a lot to be said for having a happy go lucky attitude and not caring whether you're ignored. It's a pretty sure bet you won't be, though, if that's really true. ;) 


I wasn't referring to 'making friends with the mangement' I merely wanted some communication. If you think I need a reality check for that well maybe you're the one who needs it not me.
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i know lonnie took as much time as she could to leave notes in peoples folders about the beach party....you know where the forum is hun and there was an open invitation for EVERYONE to take part it gave all the details how to tag your songs etc.....

lonnie has NEVER left me a public note about my songs but i know from a couple of conversations i have had with her that THEY ARE listened to, from what lonnie has said before they have peoples music playing in the office throughout the day...theres people i listen to but i dont always leave comments else i would have worn out fingers....

hun give em a break ... they are trying to do a job and ya only have to look at the amount of users they have here to understand that they are not going to have the time to give everyone that extra special attention ... i feel thats the duty of the members..................

now how many of these bashers here cherry have listened to your music and took an interest in you eh? they have just taken an interest in getting into this debate along with you.........

as for the favourites and friends ya mention ... hun thats a bloody farce as well you know people just adding peeps for the sake of it to get themselves on the leader boards and NOTHING will change my mind on that .... they should be rid of the leader boards and that will cut down on some of the ones who have only interest in what they themselves do but a care or thought for others!

Cherry as you know i will speak as i find i don't ever fear and follow like sheep and you have a lot of people who have favourited you i just can't see why it would be of so much importance 1 person just because shes a moderator....

if your feeling miserable here then scream at your friends for not paying attention dont be blaming esnips is my point.

why you feel excluded i really don't know .... of course it might appear i am having a go at you here and i aint ... we all at times feel a bit under valued, and of no importance and can never seem to fit in places....but! seriously its not lonnie or esnips....i know from my own personal experience when i have times i feel simular to how you do i just go very quiet and take myself away...its the odd 1 or 2 that notice i am missing and are constantly keeping in touch that are my real friends not the only 80 odd peeps who have added me as a friend...ya know what i am saying.

Where's ma bloody fluffies!

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esnips have everything that i want!..thank esnips so much to give me a chance for joy with!..i must take the time to study&research all of knowledge that you invite.. thanks again ..best regards.
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Cool! I can share many files to my friends
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Hamster Lover wrote:
@Holly Jahangiri

And in the game...you sure you never said, "How do I get to be a GM?" or "Hey, you should [fill in fantastic but technically implausible demand of the developers]"?

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Nope, never once. But what I mentioned was everyone, not just me. The game masters and staffs of that game puts their local players as top priority. 


Playing favorites is different from ignoring everybody. It's human nature to have favorites, and sometimes (as I told a young lady who complained about her teachers playing favorites) it's even appropriate to reward good behavior with more attention. But giving all the attention to your friends or to the "locals" or to the troublemakers is bad business.


Hamster Lover wrote:
Well, there's no secret to that. Its only the person's will. Whether he chooses to accept the insults or turn them into compliments.

For example..

Boy1(Skinny Guy, roughly 45kg+): Hey fatass(refering to me). Whats the rush? You're so fat that its better if you skip breaktime.
Me(74kg, not overweight due to my height, 181): I suppose so*, wanna go join me for breaktime?
Boy1: *Looks a little irritated* Dude are you dumb or something? I said you should skip breaktime!
Me: Aww since you're too busy to come, too bad! Don't blame me if you're hungry *bursts out with laughter* But, if you change your mind you can find me in the canteen. *Walks away*
Boy1: *Begins to cuss at me as I turn my back on him*
Me: *As Boy1 starts to cuss at me, I turned back and said "Oh, see! You're hungry! Come join me and enjoy some noodles or rice, your choice!" and then I walked away again*

*From my thoughts process, I turned his mean sentence to "Hey friend. Heading to the canteen already? Take a little care of your health and eat less yeah?"

Thats the pattern. 


Thanks. I shared this with my son. He's learning, but it's still hard, you know? Takes time and practice to turn insults into compliments (or even just to ignore them and continue on with life). I tend to think they reflect more on the person dishing them out than they do on the one they're directed at. He's a mature eleven year old, but he IS still eleven. He takes things too much to heart, and kids can be cruel. He still expects justice and fairness from the world. ;) At least he has some really good friends - I keep telling him that one or two really GOOD friends are worth more than a whole roomful of people who are just "sometimes friends" when it's easy, when they're not mad at you for something, when they're having a good day and inclined to be magnanimous...
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Ahh, come on, Holly. All your son need do is give that smile of his, and people will want to be his friend.
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That works too but this generation, not anymore. Pride and coolness is priority. Thats the only two things hammered into them youths now(Heck, I'm only 17, so don't go thinking I'm some bearded old bum sitting on his ass sharing his youth stories all over).

What I meant was today at schools you smile at one another, rumors will fly. You get my drift? *psst psst, that guy smiled at another guy omg omg*

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Viv, I'm really sad to say that Hamster Lover's got it right - that smile and those brains and that profound philosophical side (not to mention the silly "life is just a cartoon or video game" side, where every joke's a rerun from SpongeBob SquarePants) only work on us older women.

There will come a time when he'll appreciate that, but he needs to survive the next 15 years or so, meanwhile.

Hamster Lover, I have to ask you - WTF is wrong with people? Why do these kids think they're "ugly"? (The older one's finally figured out that she's not - but all through middle school and high school, she was pretty much convinced otherwise.)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hollyjahangiri/sets/72157600048885800/
http://www.writing.com/main/images/item_id/1303198
http://www.writing.com/main/images/item_id/1303195

What's wrong with this picture? (I think I have a couple of pretty adorable kids. They're smart, friendly - pretty cool people in my book. .)
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There's nothing wrong in the pictures. But if an individual stamped a huge sign on his/her own face "UGLY" or "USELESS" it has alot of meaning. It all depends actually, on what? I can't really express it by words.

The most common reasons as why they would discriminate themselves would be...
They're jealous of their peers, their surroundings.
They given up on themselves partially without realising it on their own.
They just say it with hopes of getting replies like "na, you're not ugly, you're not useless. you're pretty, you're handsome, you're cool and very reliable" and etc.
They just don't realise their own beauty or is self conceited; without comparing themselves to the unfortunate: not being thankful that they didn't born disfigured and etc.
They're just being a pain in the ass; OMG I WILL STAND THE TOP OF THE WORLD BEING THE #1 MOST PRETTIEST/HANDSOME PERSON!!!! But they realised someone is actually prettier or more handsome than himself/herself then s/he starts to discriminate himself/herself.
They're just being excessively humble.


In my country here, theres alot of this in school and in friendster untill I can even consider it a daily routine, going around shouting "Look! I'm so ugly!". They upload their own pictures and the picture description says I'm ugly hor*?

*A Singaporean slang; no meaning just an addon to questions at the end


But then, there's another problem. If you go around saying "Look, I'm so handsome! So pretty! So cool!" You'll get bashed on by "ya right, you're so handsome that the flowers at the garden 50miles away drooped"



Edit: I just realised that we've strayed off topic. Lets continue our random chit chat in the chit chat forum section.

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You guys needed more hugs as children...lol
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three cheers for lonnie hehehe Dave
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It seems as though I've upset a few people on this site, for that I'm sorry.
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