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Ian Paul

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Carol if there is a particular file you want why not ask the owner to enable the file or post a link and I will ask for you .

That is assuming they want to share it

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Mavil


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Carol wrote:

Se já tenho dificuldades para entender o idioma de vocês, imagina com todos esses códigos... Não entendo nada de programação! Eu só quero conseguir baixar músicas!!!!!!!
Key SAP: We already have trouble understanding the language of you, imagine with all these codes ... I do not understand anything programming! I only want to achieve download music !!!!!!! 


Sorry, Carol, but the code I posted was only to show Gupta he's wrong about the ID and to prove it's just a random number... I think I should have quoted him xD.

P.S. By "We have trouble understanding the language of you" I think you mean YOU have trouble understanding me... well, ok... then voy a escribir en español que es muy parecido al portugués y así me puedes entender un poco mejor xD...
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@Mavil
some stupid mod removed my post where I explained the esnips code .. I am going to make a blog entry about that .. them I will link it here ..
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@Mavil

I still maintain that ID is not a random no. but time in milli-seconds (time stamp, as they call it). You can check it out by trying downloading the same file numerous time. The initial six nos. will remain constant : 120728 for quite some time. Maybe then the last one will change then from 8 to 9. Why don't you generate the link repeatedly in Zuhaib's generator and watch the id nos. increase with each click on the 'Generate' button.

Your code says :
var id = randRange(1, 1000000);

It should generate a 7 digit no. if your code is working and not 13 digit no. which it actually is. So I am convinced that you have got this code from the wrong player or you have lost your way in a maze of codes.

OK let's make this a civilized discussion. Your player that you claim you made is no secret either. All the secret lies in the .js files that load with the player. (e.g : music12.js). Am I wrong? Nothing can be a secret for long in todays technology. The music page has this code :

makeFlashMP3Player("/nsdoc/447c01f0-c5a5-495f8daf-14c3241a844e", true);

The rest is in the .js file.

And yes eSnips tracks from where the links of it's files are accessed from, in it's cookies. Try embed the 'download URL' as a link on a web page (try it on your blog)...it will redirect to the player page again and again. The file will never download. This is due to the referral URL. You may copy the cookies and view them in a notepad, if you don't believe me.

We are living in a world that has shrinked into a small place due to technological advance and no person can claim that he is the first one to discover something unless he gets a Nobel Prize for it. I have not claimed that this is my discovery, users can vouch that my downloader has been there since 5th Dec 2007 (when eSnips made the Download button optional)...I have just modified the code.

I know at one single moment many people have found, what I have. So what's the big deal !!

I had decided to close this topic for ever but I see no harm if it is in a civilized language. And please don't use such language that seems offensive to other readers.

P.S : I confess I am not a geek but I do have an abnormally inquisitive mind. I work on logic and not on technical excellence. I don't even have any decompiling tools. The ID thing is an example of plain logic.
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Ok Mavil .. he is absolutely right about the ID .. its not a random number .. read this post on my blog .. I think you will understand why it is times in millisec

http://www.zuhaib.in/howto/esnips-trick-explained/

If you think I am wrong then prove me that the id in the final url is the random number generated by randRange function

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Hey ... Zuhaib is the mastermind behind this idea !!!
He'd explained me the concept long before than these stupid claimer's had published

I dont know why these silly guys crave for the credits ?????
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››ℓø√є=Pαîп‹‹™ шє сαппσ† ℓєαяи шî†нσч† Pαîп wrote:
Ok Mavil .. he is absolutely right about the ID .. its not a random number .. read this post on my blog .. I think you will understand why it is times in millisec

http://www.zuhaib.in/howto/esnips-trick-explained/

If you think I am wrong then prove me that the id in the final url is the random number generated by randRange function

theres nothing wrong in admitting the fact that others can be smart too. They have also got brain 


Ok, ok... I didn't got my code from the .js file... I just decompiled the player by using flashdecompiler and got the full actionscript code that the player uses to load a song... it don't even calls any .js file...

The ID is an enterely random number... It doesn't matter if you increase the number ir if you decrease it... it doesn't matter if you use a number 1 or a number 13546135... and most important, it doesn't log your IP or referal by using cookies... it logs how many times the file in that account has been accesed by using that ID. That's why the links in my blog redirect you to the esnips page instead of downloading the file... 'couse every body that goes to that post clicks the link... so the esnips system blocks that ID... then I just have to change the link to some other number and the link will work again... try it for your self on your site... create a link and click it nce and again 'till it redirect's you to the esnips page... then just change the ID for anything else and click again... see? you can download again from the same place... but nobody else can download again by using that ID 'till a few days latter.

Your ID number works too becouse you're generating a 'random' number based on your system clock... but try changin' it to a random number generator and you'll see it works too... by the way, did you know the esnips player sometimes doesn't load the song becouse it's using a random ID that somebody else already used a lot of times? (besides the bandwidth limit stuff)

I'll post the full esnips player code in case you want to check it out and see for yourself why am I so convinced it's a random number the one who actually loads the song into the player.

C'ya...

P.S. I think we should keep on posting in this thread, maybe together we could create "The Ultimate Esnips Downloader!" xD LOL... kiddin, bu we can learn a lot from each other...
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Maximum daily bandwidth exceeded
The maximum daily bandwidth for this account has been reached. Please try to download this file another day.
Thank you,
The eSnips Team.
i am having this problem what i have to do?
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Maximum daily bandwidth exceeded
The maximum daily bandwidth for this account has been reached. Please try to download this file another day.
Thank you,
The eSnips Team.[b]


i am having this problem what i have to do?
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Ian Paul wrote:
None of them work the moment they post them they are eradicated this is a place of sharing not stealing so if a file is not enabled it is because the owner does not want to let you download .

remember if some one walked into your home and copy some of your Cd's with out asking you would not be so happy.
They post there music to share on here and some will let you download but respect the few who want to keep some files for there own.

that little something that is special to them 


hi there.. sorry.. I just want to comment.. some people who have joined E-snips.. maybe some of them have already left E-snips long before this E-snips "new regulation" and left their folders not available to download.. (especially old songs) I mean.. come on. What is the advantage for one to upload and keep the public items such as music for themselves.. unless it is their own making.. its just they forget or dont know that there is such regulation like this.. it isn't that they dont want to share it.. they just dont know about it.. am i true?
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@Mavil

you are a stub born guy .. any random number works because ... The getTime() method returns the number of milliseconds elapsed since midnight of January 1, 1970. and any number other than 0 is a valid number in that case .. so you belive it or not the fact doesn't change. I do know how to decompile swf files and I am very strong in programming and reverse engineering .. I dont need to learn it from you ..

I guess you have not read my post on my blog .. where I have explained and proved that the random number that you say is actually getTime() ..

I have posted parts of code from esnips player thats related to this post .. and proves how getTime() takes part in the final url and also proves that I am right and YOU ARE WRONG .. (now thats called a proof)

you did not go through any .js file .. but thats the beginning from where you should b digging in .. anyway no hard feelings you are still wrong about wht you say .. your trick works and why they work I just explained that ... nevermind forget about it I believe you and I have got better things to do than getting involved in silly arguments ..

If you still insist that the information here http://www.zuhaibin/howto/esnips-trick-explained/ is wrong and its a random number then prove it with proper proof I mean source code .. not but by highlighting the line (the var id = randRange(0,100000) but how it relates to the final url .. show me if you think your theories are correct .. if you can't do that .. then STFU

About the bandwidth stuff you think esnips guys are lame as you who will track down the number of downloads using a fukin random number?? lmao .. I m not yet sure and I surely have less time to waste on this .. but the basic idea is by monitoring IP thats the basic fuking way to track history of a user ..

I am pretty sure that if you use any anonymizer you wont face any bandwidth problem .. at the worst aquiring a new IP/using a proxy would resolve the problem .. if required I will find out a way to get pass that also ..

PS : I guess you are a n00b in programming .. you need to learn to understand code thats not written by you. and most important LEARN TO RESPECT OTHERS

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I could proove it, In fact I already prooved it on the posts that some stupid admin deleted... (check out there are some posts I started but...) I higlighted that line of code since it's the one I'm talking about, do you want the full player code?.

You say you need an anonimyzer?... ok, go ahead, use it... I don't need to use an anonimyzer 'couse it is not necesary... If the link redirects me I only need to change the ID and voilá... The links at my blog doesn't work... but it's becouse too many people clicked'em and the ID went blocked... but if I change the ID in the link it will work again... (I'm not planning on changin the link every seccond so I explain at the beggining that they must change that number)... your link works becouse it has a different ID every time... but go ahead and use anonimyzers... but then if you only need to anonimyze your IP why to bother changing the ID?... any number other than 0 is valid right?, now... the ID number in the address is maybe related to the time, but not the ID used by the player... I wanted to read your blog but it looks like its down...

"You think esnips guys are lame as you who will track down the number of downloads using a fukin random number??" c'mon dude, they're using a public script... they don't even wrote theyr own code... you can read their source code and see where they downloaded the code they're using... and yes, they block that ID number to avoid external static links to their files... but they allow external players (widgets) to play the files (since the code in the widget generates a random ID) No, they doesn't block IP's... or else you could not download any files (not only the one you're downloading), No, they're not blocking referal sites... or they would be blocking every webpage containing an esnips player widget. No, the ID has nothing to do with the bandwidth limith problem... that's something totally diferent. No, I'm not a noob in programming... and you're one who needs to learn to respect others, since you're calling me noob and lame.

You say you're pretty sure if you use any anonimizer you wont face any bandwidth problem? lmao... when you get the message saying the account reached the max badwidth it means THE ACCOUNT CONTAINING THAT FILE HAS REACHED IT MAX DAILY BANDWIDTH, NOT YOURS!!!!! xD... that's why there are so many people sayin "I try to download a file but I got the bandwidth message" even when it's the first file they're tryin' to listen/download something... the pnly thing you need to do in this case is to try to download/listen the same file from another user... or you can try to download/listen it from the mirror file in the same account (the one changin "www" by "cdn0" or something like that)

Well, gotta go now. C'ya latter.
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@Mavil
Post it on your blog or mail me zuhaib@zuhaibin .. leme see

I have the source code of the player and thats why I am sure and have proved in not the random number generator ..

yes they are using public script I can see that ..

May b you are correct about the bandwidth issue .. because I have never faced such problem I didn't know that .. and that was a GUESS and I wrote that I am guessing and not sure about it ..

stop saying that thing as ID .. because its not and YOU CANNOT PROVE IT BECAUSE ITS NOT ..

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read my post in my blog zuhaib.in .. and dont post untill you show me some solid prove to support your concept ..
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mond-akatzki wrote:

Ian Paul wrote:
None of them work the moment they post them they are eradicated this is a place of sharing not stealing so if a file is not enabled it is because the owner does not want to let you download .

remember if some one walked into your home and copy some of your Cd's with out asking you would not be so happy.
They post there music to share on here and some will let you download but respect the few who want to keep some files for there own.

that little something that is special to them 


hi there.. sorry.. I just want to comment.. some people who have joined E-snips.. maybe some of them have already left E-snips long before this E-snips "new regulation" and left their folders not available to download.. (especially old songs) I mean.. come on. What is the advantage for one to upload and keep the public items such as music for themselves.. unless it is their own making.. its just they forget or dont know that there is such regulation like this.. it isn't that they dont want to share it.. they just dont know about it.. am i true?  


If you find a file that is not enabled it is because the file owner had not enabled it just leave them a message asking them to enable it .

It may be they have just not got around to it yet

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