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lea_carica wrote:

Ravi Gokhale wrote:

For those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, no explanation is possible.

Better to say that believers won't accept the explanations of those who do not belive.I'm not atheist and I'm not a believer,I don't worship any side good or bad.I'm not in some cult.I just believe in myself and concenquences for the choices I make.

Good answer lea_carica! I second your thoughts!!

SORRY NOT AGREE WITH

If you believe in GOD, then GOD exist.
If you don't believe in GOD, then GOD will never exist.

EVEN IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, STILL GOD EXIST
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR LOSS

GOD IS CLOSE TO EVEYBODY, EVEN HE KNOWS WHAT YOU THINK

GOD IS SUPREME

Yes, A A.

then if I don't belief in Gods and Goddesses, they are also still exist.
Just like God, that still exist even if we don't belief His existance.

want to know how great God is ?

A good news here :

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Astronomers_discover_clutch_of_super-Earths_999.html

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/We_may_all_be_space_aliens_study_999.html

so, God created life in other planets.
IF, the Holy Bible IS a word of God, why He didn't mention these?

IF THERE IS ONE GOD HOW CAN THERE BE A GODESSES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY LOGICAL ANSWER THAT THERE IS A GOD AND GODESSES.

YOU MAY FIND MANY MORE SUPER EARTH BUT NON OF THEM HAS LIFE

Ancient people believe in God and Goddesses, they worship them, they wrote stories of how they met them, communicate, even accept knowledge from these God and Goddesses, like embalming by the Egyptian, invented by Anubis, Man with jackal head that guards the underworld.

If these people are still have this faith by now, they will ask you the same question :

If there are God and Goddesses, how there can be only one God.
Do you have any logical answer that there is only one God.

another fact :

Triple star system of Sirius and the color of Sirius Alpha is known by the Dogon tribe 6000 years ago (said to be told by the "god" -or exactly creature- that came from the Sirius star system), while scientist knew that Sirius is a double star system and the same color as described by the Dogon people just a view years ago (perhaps the other one is a planet, not a star).

in this case He, who called God, is actually creature from another planet not the God like what we believe.

I do not believe in GOD .
can any body convince me ?

A young man who went overseas to study for quite a long time. When he returned, he asked his parents to find him a religious scholar or any expert who could answer his Questions.

Finally, his parents were able to find a scholar.
Young man: Who are you? Can you answer my questions?
Scholar: I am one of God willing, I will be able to answer your questions.
Young man: Are you sure? A lot of Professors and experts were not able to answer my questions. Scholar: I will try my best, with the help of God.

Young Man: I have questions:
1. Does God exist? If so, show me His shape.

Suddenly, the Scholar slapped the young man's face very hard.

Young Man (feeling pain): Why do you get angry at me?
Scholar: I am not angry. The slap is my answer to your questions.
Young Man: I really don't understand.
Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?
Young Man: Of course, I felt the pain. Scholar: So do you believe that pain exists?
Young Man: Yes.
Scholar: Show me the shape of the pain!
Young Man: I cannot. Scholar: That is my answer. All of us feel God's existence without being able to see His shape.

You do not believe in GOD?
you believe in GOD?

It's your choice, not GOD's.

me ?

I believe in GOD, but with some difference in understanding about HIM.
such as ....

can we hurt GOD ? I say .... yes we can.

... that kind of thing.

One more thing I forgot

Why can we only feel God's existance and can't see Him?

Because God only exist in our mind, not in REAL world. God has no shape because He is just a manifestation of our thoughts.

If YOU believe that GOD is almighty, then almighty HE is.
If YOU believe that GOD can not help you, then HE will never be able to help you.

GOD CAN DO ANYTHING YOU THINK YOU CAN'T BUT HE CAN.
and
GOD CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU THINK HE CAN'T BUT YOU CAN.

PS:
Sorry for my confusing statement, I studied philosophy just for hobby, and try to create my own way of thinking of something.

God is what you think not. God is beyond thought and if he really exists it is not something you can describes in words.

God is indescribable.

What I said is not that God exists or not. He or she cannot remain confined within our words and sentences and He rises above all these things.

Hi,
I'm new. So what is your stand Mechanoid Angelwing?
Trust in God or Not?
If you do, which God do you trust in?

Mechanoid Angelwing wrote:

have you ever think this .....

billions of years ago, there are dinosaurs .... and any other giant reptiles lurking the earth. then they vanished, killed by asteroid that crashed into the earth. then, millions of years ago, came the era where reptiles no longer rule the world. This is the time where we can see Sabertooth tiger and Mammoths walking, we call them "beast" not "dinosaurs". No humans in this age but apes. But in the middle of this age, suddenly .... a strange creature with super inteligent (at that time) exist .... we call them ... human.

Charles Darwin said that we are evolving apes. But he can't find the answer of the missing link.

So who are we?

A certain species of apes that has an enormous evolving ability so we can become the most successful evolving creature in the planet?

A species created by some kind of creatures from another world, or another planet with advanced civillisation, so WE can fill this "wild" world with civillisation?

A lucky microbial life that has a certain chemical substance so this single cell organism life can evolve into creature with advanced way of thinking called "human"?

There are no record of the creation of Dinosaurs or any other jurassic or triassic creatures in the bible. Just human and common animals around us.

Could it be that He, that we worship is actually a crature from another planet that has the same appearance like us? (God created men in his own image). Human was created by the creation of God. If we think that He who created us is God, so we are created by God that was created by the other god ....

Thinking of these, you can say .... God is almighty. He created life not only on the Earth but also in the other solar system and even in another galaxy.

--- Let this be the greatest mystery of human life ---
--- solve this puzzle, and we will understand the universe, and be part of the largest society in the universe, where our neighbour is not he who live next door, but they who live in the next solar system, and the other galaxies ---

I find this post of you highly scintillating, and it speaks a lot about man and the origin of gos. Of course this type of questioning mind leads us to discovery. I am really thrilled and this type of post enriches and adds value to the forum immensely.

May I know your educational background and career. You are really startling. I call this creative thinking. Creative thinking emerges when we speak about things that are generally unthought and the general people do not visit such domains of thinking. They use a formula or some prototype and they can not go beyond that domain.

Particularly your questions about God and and his association with the world and the history of man has some message rich in content massively.

Keep on sharing for I love reading more and more such illuminating ideas.

A A wrote:

SORRY NOT AGREE WITH

If you believe in GOD, then GOD exist.
If you don't believe in GOD, then GOD will never exist.

EVEN IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD, STILL GOD EXIST
IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR LOSS

GOD IS CLOSE TO EVEYBODY, EVEN HE KNOWS WHAT YOU THINK

GOD IS SUPREME

I do not know which god do you mean?

Yes I see that your understanding of god is different, and sorry to say, yours is quite distorted.
If you believe God as the creator,
then you should believe that everything is in His control because everything is His creation, (that includes THE FEELING OF HURT)
So why must He experience something(HURT) that He create.
The same goes to TIME. He created time. So He is out of the measurement of time. That is why question:"What exist before God?" should not arise. Because He is out of time. Not bounded by time. Do not age. Because He do not follow what He created.
Plus, he created the term "before" So its impossible to have something "before" who created "before". My simple english should not confuse you. Think and reflect.
If you think that God posses what we posses, then the God that you are thinking about is not "God enough" to be our God. I don't want a god who can be HURT.
I don't want a God who can be defeated by something else.
If you want to find logic and observable scene to make you believe in Him, you wont be satisfied. There is an extent of knowledge where He limit us to think of.
After all, its the matter of Faith. And Faith is a GIFT. He will give it to those who sincerely wants. Not those who question because of their arrogance.
Hope you'll find the truth.
Peace be with you guys.

Mechanoid Angelwing wrote:

One more thing I forgot

Why can we only feel God's existance and can't see Him?

Because God only exist in our mind, not in REAL world. God has no shape because He is just a manifestation of our thoughts.

If YOU believe that GOD is almighty, then almighty HE is.
If YOU believe that GOD can not help you, then HE will never be able to help you.

GOD CAN DO ANYTHING YOU THINK YOU CAN'T BUT HE CAN.
and
GOD CAN'T DO ANYTHING YOU THINK HE CAN'T BUT YOU CAN.

PS:
Sorry for my confusing statement, I studied philosophy just for hobby, and try to create my own way of thinking of something.

ACTUALY WE BRING FORTH THE WORLD AS PER OUR VERY PERSONAL COGNITION.THE UIVERSE OUT THERE IS LUMPY. OUR COGNITIVE POWER GIVES IT A SHAPE AND MEANING BUT AGAIN AS PER OUR PERCEPTION AND BY GOD... IT IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERY ONE. THE NON BELEIVER CAN NOTACCEPT THE EXISTANCE WHILE BELEIVER CAN NOT REJECT THE SAME.

I want to ask you something.

if human - or we can say mankind - does not exit in this world, who will call Him God? who will give statement "God does exist"?

it's a "deep thinking", I want you to really use your logic to answer this.

what is "right" for one person isn't always "right" for the other.
"right" and "wrong" only exist in our mind, not in reality.

My educational background?
my educational background is art, but I love to "think about something" after I read some philosophy books. I love science too just for hobby.