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Why oh why does eS@#$% continue to lie to members that all you have to do to clear an account is just not sign in, when its obvious that that is not the case? WHY? Why do mods continue to be part of the ruse even after its obvious that they are being used as a mouthpiece for the lie? How do they live with themselves? I totally understand why some folks, esp the woman above who was abused and wants to clear her links to this site. And the suggestion that all the problems with this "service" are not laid out in the beginning.. joining is kinda like a trap. NO EXIT unless perhaps you blow off the lame instruction to "just don't sign on" and instead whine here. Why not just say, whine here and your account might be deleted.. be honest.

I'm not asking to delete my account. I do wonder if it ever comes to that if I will be able to, and not get some mod trying to mollify me with the SOS (NOT save our ship) about not signing in.

Its counter intuitive to do nothing to get something done... wait !!!! THAT'S IT That is the eS@#$% way of doing things!!!!! No Wonder!!!!!! ahhhhhh I get it....eSneaky

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/esnips.com

LOL.. LIMBO MON! How low can dee stats go mon? You does make one lame site. All dees complaints, day does be showin' up in dee stats for true. Dis place bad bad bad monkey pox, MON!

Anybody play "Lowball" poker? ...trying to get the worst hand.

after 3 tries to upload an mpeg I get this, I won't bother to again and will upload to a different site instead, but just in case you care to fix it, this is the info..--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

type Exception report

message

description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.

exception

javax.servlet.ServletException: BeanUtils.populate
org.apache.struts.util.RequestUtils.populate(RequestUtils.java:497)
org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.processPopulate(RequestProcessor.java:79

org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.process(RequestProcessor.java:205)
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.process(ActionServlet.java:1164)
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.doPost(ActionServlet.java:415)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:709)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)

root cause

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: No bean specified
org.apache.commons.beanutils.PropertyUtils.getPropertyDescriptor(PropertyUtils.java:837)
org.apache.commons.beanutils.BeanUtils.setProperty(BeanUtils.java:934)
org.apache.commons.beanutils.BeanUtils.populate(BeanUtils.java:80

org.apache.struts.util.RequestUtils.populate(RequestUtils.java:495)
org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.processPopulate(RequestProcessor.java:79

org.apache.struts.action.RequestProcessor.process(RequestProcessor.java:205)
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.process(ActionServlet.java:1164)
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.doPost(ActionServlet.java:415)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:709)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)

note The full stack trace of the root cause is available in the Apache Tomcat/5.5.15 logs.

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Miss P. wrote:

4. christianity. Jesus did it.
(sorry vicar....

you should fine those guys for using your name in their method,
retroTECH / retroactive ??

...well he didn't clean my site. What??? like I got to eat his body and drink his blood to get rid of spam??? LOL

I have so many, I can't be bothered to list them. I just accept them as part of the total eSnip experience. Why not just advertise eSnips as a spam site? Then it would be perfectly OK to see 70+ spams on one's site, in fact, it would be a sign of success as to how many spammers one could get to hit you, like a contest for underachievers, on par with admin. Ppl are only pissed Bcuz they are functioning at a higher degree of web savvy than the admin. Just drop your personal standards to the level of a 9yo indonesian web music pirate and reposter and you'll just think that this is the coolest spammist website eh-Ver

Hey Admin: Rather than me list them individually, just visit my (or any of us) site weekly and delete as you go. There's a list for you waiting if admin has the strength or energy to even try just a few mouse clicks, instead of me doing it for you.. LOLOLOL I won't hold my breath. If you guys can't be bothered I don't know why I should. I mean, this is YOUR website, it hardly feels like ours, ...ya know?

um.. does Admin even look at these posts? or is it just the mods and they whine up.. or is it down? Sure are a lot more views than votes here.. proof that its not a priority for the majority.

Miss P. wrote:

u.n.b.e.l.i.e.v.a.b.l.e
I still don't understand why especially you seem to hit the "jackpot" that high.
you must be popular or else...

so sorry.

Miss P.

I have so many, I can't be bothered to list them. I just accept them as part of the total eSnip experience. Why not just advertise eSnips as a spam site? Then it would be perfectly OK to see 70+ spams on one's site, in fact, it would be a sign of success as to how many spammers one could get to hit you, like a contest for underachievers, on par with admin. Ppl are only pissed Bcuz they are functioning at a higher degree of web savvy than the admin. Just drop your personal standards to the level of a 9yo indonesian web music pirate and reposter and you'll just think that this is the coolest spammist website eh-Ver

Rather than me list them individually, just visit my (or any of us) site weekly and delete as you go. There's a list for you waiting if admin has the strength or energy to even try just a few mouse clicks, instead of me doing it for you.. LOLOLOL I won't hold my breath. If you guys can't be bothered I don't know why I should. I mean, this is YOUR website, it hardly feels like ours, ...ya know?

Dale wrote:

Oh ... Tiger. What's with the "Chicago Business Hours Only" on your website? Have you been yankin this yank's leg? Is this to say that if I were to call that phone number, I'd talk to the real, live Tiger Leahu? Some cool tattoo shirts, btw. I shoulda thought of that.

Thanks Dale,
Yes I presently live again outside Chicago and not happy about it. I was born a yank, and renounced my citizenship at, as stated B4, on May 4th 1970, and moved to England and then to the West Indies. I moved back to yankland to make money, just like a Mexican or any other foreigner, not out of love of anything but the cash. Like I said, I know all about yanks, inside out, and know whereof I do speak. I got street creds. I've got 6 years to go when the wife gets her pension, and then its back home, probably to The Grenadines since the Virgin Islands have changed (not for the better) since Hugo. Too close to Puerto Rico not to be affected.

I clicked, I saw, I got bored in less than 30 seconds. But the Summerian angle is well worth the effort to anyone trying to understand where all of western religions STARTED, and basically why they are fear-based, and their hell is much like the Summerian afterlife for everyone.

The concept: Chaos (bad gods) "In the beginning" were subdued by Order (good gods) that rose up, that Tiamat and her monsters created "gods" and murdered them for assuming they were improvements, or better, and finally they sorta killed her (she's eternal so she sleeps or is in a coma) and that men were made from the drops of blood of her general Akingu, and now the gods kill men out of spite, the way their mother killed them. Men were actually created for the sheer purpose of worshiping the gods, and to give there lives to them. And we men, kill gods (look at the thousands that are no longer worshiped) as our mother did. Great Cthulu lies dreaming, not dead, and when she stirs in her sleep, war and disease break out. She lives in our thoughts/souls today as pessimism and athieism and science, killers of gods. And she is burried in Iraq, in the Sinjar, home of the Yazidis. Peacock worshipers. The original Luciferians, and why Sadam tried to FINALLY exterminate them. muhuhahaha. Thank the yanks for sorta comming to their rescue. The Yazidis have changed the story a bit, with the blood legend turned into drops of sweat from the peacock as it gazed upon the face of god. Like everyone else, they too don't want to look too closely at their belief's history since it stirs up a whole mess of contradictions.. a religious tradition going back 6,000 years plus LOL.

What is interesting is that the very first word of the old testiment, Berashith goes on to say that "Darkness was upon the face ..." darkness proceeded everything, and then the Elohim created light. Elohim, Adonai ha-Aretz, JHVH, all were a products of that original DARKness and then "fixed" it, depending on who's side you were on. Sounds like there is a whole story that preceeded the begat begat begat myth. Its called The Enuma (Pneuma) Elish, lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En%C3%BBma_Eli%C5%A1

Ultrapneumatic- not just blowhard, but also ...get this, ultra spiritual ROFLMAO

Aww shucks. Right! LOL. Too bad we can't get the vicar to trade insults instead of evangelizing like a baptist in salt lake shitty (to stay on topic) but I don't think the wanker has as a command of english, or yank, and it would amount to arguing with a 9yo asking "why" ad infinitum.

I made a mistake stating I cannot be insulted, I can, and christianity is an insult to my very foundation, and why I rail against it and all the rest too. And ppl who evengelize on behalf of an invisible and/or dead guy who didn't own a cell-phone and doesn't have a clue as to the new rules, called FACTS, ... well even when they are totally polite and nice and assuming some moral highground, they insult me with their unprovable mythic belief in the face of actual FACTS. I post here because it insults me and I, who never ever gives an opinion unless asked for, because of the insult, gives me in my little tiny world liscense to voice my singular opinion amongst all you ppl who believe in one allah or another.

pneumonaltramicropicsilicavolcanosiosis.. love greek..very christian LOL
spirit/air-very-small-(scopic?)-computer-huge hot explosion-disease...
ah.. the great thing is you can sorta figure out what is being said, and greeks have been correcting everybody who uses it since before saint paul, and why the "Bible Commands..yaddah yaddah.." is probably a bad interpretation of aramaic greek LOL.

Ultrapneumatic(=blowhard) electrosilicavulcanosis

ah the poetry.. vicar never got such a slew of email notices linked to such a rich source of opinion, something not allowed in islam, pick any page, LOL Indeed pick any religious text. How's that for a scriptural reference. Like a stage magician, "Pick a page, any page, step right up." all lies, all holy books from The Pneuma Elish, to the Constitution and Mein Kampf, lies to control masses of sheeple.

Hey vicar, If I say here and now "You go eat shit"... does that now make this puny forum equal to the bible in its scope and viability, especially at commanding stupidity. Snake is delicious, rather like eel, and it doesn't kill anything but the moslem in you.

The Pneuma Elish is the very first bible ever and from whom the jews (whos uniqueness was that they were monothiests) got their ideas and stories, back when they were captive in Babylon. Centuries later and under the influence of the Greek idea of Gods being invisible supermen, Jesus mixed that with monotheism and started his jewish cult, and almost 600 years later after that, that cult degenerated into the antithesis of the original Messianic promise of the Talmund, and so Islam was born in much the same way as Christianity.. all looking for a new/better interprtation of "THE RULES" and all based on the lies of previous religions. Only Science, and its total removal of unprovable supositions, was/is devoid of carrying on the original lie of The Pneuma Elish.. that god exists and the universe was created by it. That idea is an insult to my intelligence, and boy have I looked into finding the root of the cancer of faith called religion. BTW The Pneuma Elish is my favorite bible, predates the old testement by thousands of years!!!! and totally rocks. But I know Puzuzu (the daemon in The Exorcist) isn't real. It doesn't command people to eat shit, or submit, or any of that. It doesn't even claim to be the word of any of the gods it goes on about. Just an overal sense of dread and forces beyond anyone's control, and generations of vengence and future generations paying for their lineage. Cool scary stuff. Ia! Ia Tiamat! Ia Puzuzu! Ia Chaos!
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons, even death may die." Abdul Ahzred, the Necronomicon.

Dale wrote:

May I ask your age, Tiger? Just something I've wondered about and nothing personal.

And, I don't mean to insult you, ..

53yo, born in Chicago, military school 4-8th, then Nautical College Pangbourne 1970-74, USMM 90-96. Insult me? HA! Impossible. I'm a sailor, and insults are love songs between shipmates, and the more hard work put into crafting the insult, the more it is appreciated and insures a return broadside of equal effort. Sailors were never PC and why they are fish-out-of-water ashore. Fire when ready. LOL.

Dale wrote:

I'll bet you'd argue with me, if I said,"Have a nice day.", wouldn't ya?

Not argue, debate. And there would be no debate with your views, or vicar's if there was agreement. We do not go on about what we agree on (like our hatred for jihadists) just what we disagree on (that moslems are no different than christians since they are both exclusive hate groups based on nonsense from invisible beings.)

Dale wrote:

Well, you and your wife must get along famously, by your own writing. However, it is true that opposites do attract.

There is some truth in what you write, my friend.... or not...but, my definition if being a conservative is more of a "Rebel" philosophy. But, with your attitude, you'd probably read William W. Johnstone's "Ashes" series and decry all of it, for one reason or another. However, your wife might love it.

Ben Raines, leader of the Rebel Movement, developed a near perfect nation, in this fictional account about an "end of the world" nuclear war and the people rising from the ashes, trying to rebuild our once great nation. You should read all 32 books and then, you MIGHT understand my philosophy of life.

Conservatives are rebels...hmmm Not in Rhodesia! (poor fate) We had posters back at the academy in England to Be a Man Among Men and join the Rhodesian Commandos and if not for marrying the head nurse at sick-bay I would have gone on safari to hunt sub-human liberals as defined by the government.. How fun is THAT! Just one of my regrets in life was not joining...sigh.

Quite frankly, I'm about as interested in your philosophy as you are in mine, without a doubt. I'm still reading Satre and Aristotle and Hume.. better fiction, LOL. After digesting and memorizing much of Aleister Crowley over thirteen years, I swore never again to read light literature until I finished ALL the classics first. I do not get my definitions of the English language from works of fiction, however I contend that its a mistake to think that English and American are today the same language. 'av a fag mate? LOL So your definition is more than likely correct in your circles, although its not universal. It an american fault to think that they set the definition of anything, other than what an american is; like it matters.

Liberals will grab whatever weapon they can to overthrow Republics, even stones and rakes and votes. The republican/national guards will use the best weapons they have to keep the liberal mob in place (Kent State, May 4th 1970). Weapons are not a consevative vs liberal device universally, and again I contend that in your circles it might be. Weapons are a device of militancy, both conservative and liberal, neither side can claim exclusivity. Yanky liberals who want to totally disarm, are merely changing weapons since they can't shoot worth a damn or are too law abiding and chicken and use politics instead of a .45 cal. ..but there are plenty of exceptions to the rules to make any rule redundant.

Dale wrote:

I am an equal opportunity politician hater. They are all corrupt, no matter where, or what nation. So, don't lecture me on what you think I believe in. Please, sir, use that obvious intelligence of yours and put yourself beside someone, rather than always above them. You truly haven't a clue as to my belief system. I do not fit yours or anyone else's terms or definition of liberal or conservative. And.. you truly do not understand what type of liberals I speak of. If you read Bill's books, you'd have a better understanding, but I seriously doubt you'd read his books, because you are already above all of everyone you talk with.

I get that alot, LOL. I remind people that I look all individual people straight in the eye as total equals, but only the same insomuch as we are different and unique, equally unequal if you will. I do NOT contend that great minds think alike at all. To me that's absurd. Great minds have unique thoughts that others inculcate and ..evangelize. As I have written before, months ago, if anyone thinks I'm talking down to them simply stand up straight and stop looking up my nose. I said individual people.. but once they speak for a group like moslems or christains or americans or liberals or some herd mentality.. I treat them as part of the herd that they willingly claim to be a part of. That's not me looking down at all, that's them getting on their knees and wanting me to join in, or submit (which in arabic is pronounced islam) LOLOL

Liberal vs conservative... this is rubbish as both sides are part of the same equation of western politics. Its the problem of 2 parties, they are just one party away from facism (the real definition) and 20+ parties, that can't get a damn thing done, from a democracy. And with a dichotomy, there is nothing but polarity, yin and yang, eternal conflict. Independants and libertarians are a joke since they too are also left or right.. a useless system of definition that insures eternal problems. It does point to the fact that IF the dems disregard the reps, then a state of virtual facism exists, or like the last admin, if the reps squash the dems, then a virtual facist state is in control.. see? One party in control is facism, neither conservative or liberal but both and niether. Having one party, is practcally the same as one party in charge and the other one castrated.. although the hari-kiri of republicans of late.. one can hardly fault the dems for taking facist advantage LOLOL. Like the dems should help the reps back up to 50% so the system doesn't seem facist, LOLOL

Dale, do you vote? Have you voted? Do you take responsibility for perpetuating the politcal class/system you hate? I contend that if not one single person showed up to vote for ANYbody "representing" them, there wouldn't be an Obama or Bush.. or a Hitler or Stalin, all voted in by a bunch of idiots. The problem is 15% do vote, call it a landslide, and disregard all the non-votes as redundant instead of a vote not to fill that office. Henry Ford said, "You can have it in any color as long as its black.".. same goes for politics and religion. The choices all seem the same, all bad, all somebody else's idea of how we should be ruled. Conservative, liberal.. I see no difference. I suspect anyone who would call themselves either. I certainly would not grant them the right to "authorize" an armed cop to keep Me in place.

Dale wrote:

Quit trying to just piss me off and talk sense, if you are going to talk at all. Quit GENERALIZING. Just because you think you know all there is to know about America and it's citizenry, I think you know less than you speak of, sir. Granted, there are tons of ignorant folks here... of all colors and backgrounds. That's how that asshole Obama got elected. And HE, sir, is a facist for certain. So are the democraps and repukelicans.

You, sir, are a bleeding heart liberal, yourself. Decrying the use of weapons to defend one's self or one's family. You'd subscribe to the removal of weapons from ALL people, who legally own them, giving ALL power to the criminal element, from governing bodies to the lowest rapist. It's people like yourself, who have disarmed nations, so that their government can become totalitarian dictatorships. The people can protest, but only as long as they can find rocks to toss at the dictator's military.

I know all I need to know and then some, about yankeedoodleosophy/istory, for me, just as I'm certain you (all) know what you need to know for you too, otherwise you and I would not be who we are, even that asshole vicar. I am not recruiting anyone to be on my side of the debate. In fact, just the opposite, don't agree, get your own opinion and reject mine as unique to me, that's all I ask. I'm not here to win.. that would be futile since there is nothing to win. I am an existential anarchist and a nihilist and a thelemite to boot, a sociopth by every definition. One would be crazy and should be scared to agree with anything I say (as you've stated

and with my philosophy of no god.. I can answer the question of , "So what's the point." with "There is no point, the question is absurd" which in itself is absurd to people of faith. I have none.

As for the military aspect, I was an officer in the Royal Naval Reserve. I love guns and don't confuse them with sidearms and assault rifles. I have a sailor's swagger and a bit o' british snobbery about lubbers. My republican wife hates "guns" and I had to get rid of all my firearms 26 years ago. My winchester collection, my weatherby, and my burkowitz: charter arms .44 spl. She equates firearms with Fidel. We "jack tar sailors" have songs about spanish ladies so I still have my main gun primed and trained. Most important to me, is that she has a family CREST, and like me is of noble birth. NOT important to you lot, but that's what makes her special in my eyes, and probably the reason you look up my nose, LOL. She is a special.ed teacher and has her own conservative reasons NOT to have anything to do with "guns".. I hate that term applied to sidearms...grrrr. I make up for it playing CoD2 3 hours a day, instead of TV. LOLOL Stalingrad is a much better forum than here on this topic.

Everyone should own a firearm, even a nuclear or biological weapon, indeed a stockpile, just like a government assumes it should. No difference whatsoever, there are kooky governments just like kooky people. It would not take long to fix all problems... I'm a lot more conservative than you think, and not conservative enough not to be confused with a liberal.. the lables just aren't sticky enough to stay put on my philosophical slime. Kinda like the juice squirted on the surfaces that causes stealth aircraft to be invisible. shhhh. If one removes more applicable lables (like anarchist) then the ill fitting ones sorta work, but not perfectly. Like me seeing you as a liberal, not as an insult, but as a revolutionary, and you balking at the mere thought of it. Or you using liberal as an insult, even if it doesn't totally apply.. Anarchist does fine thank you as it is neither and can be both depending on who's running the show. I don't want anybody ruling me, anybody. And I'm not joining anybody who's out to help me, they are just as bad.

Dale wrote:

Ahh.. some nights, speaking with you, is a waste of my time and only gives me a head ache. I don't think you want to get along with anyone.

LOL, That's because you think there is a point, when in fact there is NONE. Chill, say your peace, and accept whatever comes, even another slew of vicar quoting lies from one book to disprove lies from another book. Don't be disappointed by the outcome when its obvious to see where its all going.. I'm not. I have too many LOLs to consider this a waste. I'm amused at worst.

Dale wrote:

Tell your wife to read William W. Johnstone's Ashes series. She'll love it and you might even learn something of who I am.

Have a nice day, sir!

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."
BTW, which DOES NOT mean do whatever you want... different topic.

..a whopping 21 votes so far... big deal... too bad.. LOL.. try this vote on youtube LOLOLOL

Dale wrote:

not all of us are the same as those that hurt you or caused you to leave

oh yea? Schizophrenia? Dale, don't be scared, just get off the fence.
Islam is Conservatism, especially Wahhabi, good old fashioned idealism with all the weapons to back it up. Islam is a good example of a return to abrahamic conservatism in the face of christian liberalism. Democracy is a Liberal movement in every sense of the word "Everybody is equal before the Law" is a liberal Greek precept.. Christianity is liberalism, ask any priest of Mars or Astarte or Pharaoh or a Rabbi.. Jesus was and is still a liberal jew. RCs are conservative next to Lutherans and they look conservative compared to bible thumpers who think they are conservative compared to atheists, but its all liberal relativism. All those who railed against the realm and started the movement to end monarchy, Diderot, Rousseau, Jefferson, Franklin.. all the phiolsophes, all liberals... George III and all the Hanoverian and Tudors and Plantagenets before them..conservatives through and through. Royalists are THE conservatives, and compared to them, yank republicans are a revolutionary Bolshevik mob. The USA is a liberal state, founded on liberal philosophy by activist militant liberals.. and a few leftist conservatives like Hamilton and Adams, but not a single Longshanks among them, and anyone who was, was a traitor to the liberal independence movement. Your talk of revolution is liberalism Dale.

The problem of the terms liberal and conservative is that it has become a RELATIVE label. My family is Hapsburg and we define(d) conservatism and why I don't buy some unwitting liberals (like Dale) telling me what conservatives are since it is a liberal definition. Napoleon was in fact a Liberal, esp with his idea of public education!!! Schools/education for everybody?!?!?! crazy. But his idea of hero worship with his picture and the flag in every classroom.. brilliant and copied by everyone since, it became conservative... but I know better.

Yank "conservatives" are in fact just liberals who are just a little more conservative than the democrats they decry, almost like Bolsheviks vs Decemberists. The greatest sworn enemy of communism is in fact the Nazis, and they really did hate those liberals and fought them more than anybody in history, even more than "the west." and it destroyed them. How noble was that? I won't go so far to say they were conservatives because they were the National Social Democrats Party, BUT they were a lot more conservative than John Birch (me dad was a Bircher) or the KKK, shining examples of true yank conservatism, unlike today's truly pathetic "republicans". What made Nazis liberal (the only thing really) was their treatment of the primary conservatives in Europe: jews, and wanting education and healthcare for all patriots, HA!

From my own experience, today's modern conservatism died with Bill Buckley whom I adored. Now yank conservatives are simply "liberal light" and degenerated to just being less liberal than the democrats. They may be a little louder, and a little more fanatic, but they are still liberals posing as conservatives in my feudal eyes. Wanting the constitution applied like it originally was, blindly ignoring the whole male suffrage and land ownership thing in order to vote (no illegal aliens here boss) and owning a slave and a musket now redefined as just assault weapons and indeed ANY weapon.. but letting go the slaves issue.. hmmmm, letting go the slaves issue..that's liberalism. Its definitely Marxism LOLOLOL. I hate liberals and I want my slaves back again. Some countries still have slaves and they hate that western/liberal pressure to stop LOLOL. Lincoln may be seen as a liberal for the slave thing, but the first concentration camps were for injuns, and he was not stopping any extermination process on that front LOL. Perhaps liberating the injuns and exterminating the blacks, or at least shipping them all back would have made the history books more like an ethics lesson instead of a lesson on how NOT to do things. Monroe did try to ship'em back and made a country for them, Liberia, they just were not as thurough as the SS were.

Here is true conservatism: Go out and conquer. Take it forever from them (whoever) and make it yours. In this sense, Islam is more consevative than the west. Here in fact is the problem with yank conservative foreign policy: its schizoid conservatism and its very liberal while calling itself conservative!!!?! Stoning women is conservatism, giving them a vote or just thinking them as equals is liberal thought. I have always held that the US should have invaded Canada when the CCCP attacked Finland and Poland, ignored Europe, and then conquered/"liberated" everything EVERYTHING south. I can't stand wishy washy liberals who think they are conservatives simply because they whine about what the democrats think.. Dale, you and my wife are self professed conservatives.. BUT she still loves both Bushes and that stupid actor president and his dopey wife no matter what. She's Cuban and loves Palin-like republicans and hates democrats no matter what since they are Fidel's dupes. As for me, I never vote because its a liberal vice, and shun anyone who does. Do any of you conservatives take responsibility for the last administration and if so, how many of you have killed yourselves for what you've done by voting?.. I feel all republicans should have their voting rights removed AT LEAST, and use a little of the old original selective application of the constitution like a real conservative. LOL Samurai were conservatives, you so called conservatives are just posers. The old joke was democrats were their own worst enemy.. moreso now for republicans n'est-ce pas, voting in a string of idiots has ruined their credibility just like corrupt kings eventually destroyed monarchy. ..or morons like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh destroying Bill Buckley's legacy.

The last true liberal president who did the right thing, Andy Jackson. He could easily win the republican nomination nowadays, and would never get a democrat endorsement, especially a black or injun or latino one, ..just to prove how relative the modern definition of this term is. One cannot be conservative without being elitist first and foremost, it is the basis of conservative thought. Also, don't listen to uneducated people like that moron bush, and learn what Fascism is by that idiot's definition. Islamofascist??? that's like military intelligence, oxymoronic.

Facism is the extermination of socialism and the take over of corporations to become a corporate state.. returning to the original Roman ideal of republic. Wiki: Facism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology. Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak. Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state. Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement. Fascism opposes class conflict, blames capitalist liberal democracies for its creation and communists for exploiting the concept. It is conservative patriotism for and by patriots; anyone else, look out.

sound familiar?... redefine what it is that you are scared of. Embrace whatever you are, but totally understand the whole picture and the historical facts. To me, being a christian is like being a nazi nowadaze, lets forget and forgive the past since they don't do all the attocities any more. ..yea, right. They just THINK them and shout it out, but seldom act cuz its illegal (defn. schizophrenia). Passive aggressive. I can't be one just because they are the enemy of my enemy. I have ethics. It's OK to call yourself american, an injun killing, nigger slaving, liberal from the getgo.. but now, like a butterfly, a conservative who is equal to blacks and latinos in every way.. ROFLMAO

Dale wrote:

Only problem with nuking anyone, is that it's just such a waste of everything.

Tactical nukes.. enough for mecca and its suburbs. Artillary shells, not planet wide thermo-nuclear devices. Even Neutron Bombs, that only kill living things but leave everything intact would be great. Nerve gas would do the job too, but even a firecracker would set off a stampede as has happened and will happen again. The old B52s and what the yanks did in Nam and Laos would probably work too. LBJ would have had no problem with giving the order. The Russians I know would help us, especially in Chechnya and their southern flank. And the good thing is an overall bilateral reduction in nukes by them and us.. it just becomes a method of disposal.

The only problem with taking out mecca, is that you miss killing the women who are the actual breaders of the jihad. They are usually left out of the "Final Solution" regarding jihadists due to ethical concerns. But if we all saw breeders as scum, it would really help. Its what war, every single war is ACTUALLY about, dehumanizing the other side. They congregate for the most part in bug-like colonies, so its just a matter of mapping out the hit zones, and except for the bleeding hearts, most people already feel that the other side is scum, on BOTH sides so I think that part of the equation is moot.

Do I sound elitist?... Good!

The main problem is that ALL jihadists are civilians, and their M.O. is to use that fact to sway public opinion against military action. If however, a muslim was seen as a potential combatant, which they are, then wiping them out would indeed be the fix.. like the 19th century injun problem. An LBJ, a U.S.Grant, a Billy Sherman, and a Georgie Custer would make a happier, less religiously fanatic society. This is no different than a muslim seeing the weak underbelly of western society and using it as the main source of attack.. LIKE THIS FORUM. They use freedom of speech against itself, like a niggah rapper. Or use democracy to install a dictatorship like Algeria did with the French.

Interesting note, that this blurring of distinction between civilians and military troops is rather like the Original SA and SS. The Waffen SS were military,but the rest were really civilians in (cool) uniforms, separate from the Army, and better suited to carry out what the Army refused to do, very similar to jihadists. If jihadists and the vicar of christ were seen as muslim SS.. this would all be over in 4 years.

After a long hard think, I found a solution!

The problem is that we all are disappointed with how the service is not what we think it should be. IF the name of this site changes from eSnips to eSpam, then everyone would know what the service is all about and there would not be anything to complain about. Simple. Honesty is the best, and you would not need a bunch of kapo-mods to mollify all the complaints since there would be nothing to complain about. A snappy motto like World's crappyist web service would do much to keep people who demand a better service all the headache of even signing on here. Its a cheap fix for unmotivated site owners. Its not that this free site sucks so much as its just that its not what we were lead to believe it was. Its the lie, the being duped that pisses people off.

So be honest and all your complaints will fade away... but don't say you'll do this and that, and then don't. That just annoys people. Step up and admit how crappy you are, and that stated intentions have nothing to do with what the actual plan is, which is to do as little as possible. eSham is another good title.